Comments on: One of the other big lies of our time http://likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/07/27/one-of-the-other-big-lies-of-our-time/ Ron Coleman's pretty good blog Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:06:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: vicstich http://likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/07/27/one-of-the-other-big-lies-of-our-time/#comment-5061 vicstich Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:31:45 +0000 http://likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/07/27/one-of-the-other-big-lies-of-our-time/#comment-5061 Kevin, most atheists do admit that they cannot prove there is no god. The problem is that this is irrelevant. Either you have good reason to believe something or you don't. If you don't, you don't believe. It's as simple as that, despite how you desire to keep on confusing it. All agnostics are still additionally either believers (theists) or non-believers (atheists): there isn't any other alternative. And the old, O'Reily-level accusations that atheists are their "own god." Come on: you're not THAT goofy and ridiculous are you? Kevin, most atheists do admit that they cannot prove there is no god. The problem is that this is irrelevant. Either you have good reason to believe something or you don’t. If you don’t, you don’t believe. It’s as simple as that, despite how you desire to keep on confusing it. All agnostics are still additionally either believers (theists) or non-believers (atheists): there isn’t any other alternative.

And the old, O’Reily-level accusations that atheists are their “own god.” Come on: you’re not THAT goofy and ridiculous are you?

]]> By: Kevin D. http://likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/07/27/one-of-the-other-big-lies-of-our-time/#comment-5052 Kevin D. Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:53:21 +0000 http://likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/07/27/one-of-the-other-big-lies-of-our-time/#comment-5052 <blockquote>Why don’t you just read and understand what the bible says and then make up your mind. If you still choose religion you are delusional and should seek help.</blockquote> So, you don't actually what people to draw their own conclusions. You want them to draw the same conclusions you do. You exalt your own reason and ego to places it has no right to be and assume that in your paltry finite existance you've experienced all that may be experienced and may those who differ with you be damned. Tell me, if you would, what makes you qualified to think such a thing? Who are you that we should take your word over another? Something tells me you've spent so much time looking in, admiring the shrine you've built to yourself, you don't actually believe it's possible there just may exist things outside your experience that prove you wrong. At least religionists admit out the gate that faith is a part of their belief system. Heck, I have more respect for agnostics than I do for athiests. They're honest enough with themselves to admit there's a real possibility there could be a God, they just haven't experienced that yet. Aspen, you need a god just as much as the rest of us. You just happen to find your's in a mirror. I hope he lives up to all the faith you've put into him.

Why don’t you just read and understand what the bible says and then make up your mind. If you still choose religion you are delusional and should seek help.

So, you don’t actually what people to draw their own conclusions. You want them to draw the same conclusions you do.

You exalt your own reason and ego to places it has no right to be and assume that in your paltry finite existance you’ve experienced all that may be experienced and may those who differ with you be damned. Tell me, if you would, what makes you qualified to think such a thing? Who are you that we should take your word over another? Something tells me you’ve spent so much time looking in, admiring the shrine you’ve built to yourself, you don’t actually believe it’s possible there just may exist things outside your experience that prove you wrong.

At least religionists admit out the gate that faith is a part of their belief system. Heck, I have more respect for agnostics than I do for athiests. They’re honest enough with themselves to admit there’s a real possibility there could be a God, they just haven’t experienced that yet.

Aspen, you need a god just as much as the rest of us. You just happen to find your’s in a mirror. I hope he lives up to all the faith you’ve put into him.

]]> By: Ron Coleman http://likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/07/27/one-of-the-other-big-lies-of-our-time/#comment-5000 Ron Coleman Sun, 29 Jul 2007 02:43:03 +0000 http://likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/07/27/one-of-the-other-big-lies-of-our-time/#comment-5000 Aspen, you are making a mistake. Dove and I are referring to intellectual atheists, not people like you. Don't sweat it. Aspen, you are making a mistake. Dove and I are referring to intellectual atheists, not people like you. Don’t sweat it.

]]> By: Aspentroll http://likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/07/27/one-of-the-other-big-lies-of-our-time/#comment-4987 Aspentroll Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:29:47 +0000 http://likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/07/27/one-of-the-other-big-lies-of-our-time/#comment-4987 What a sad joke you are, Dove. Have your feelings been hurt by the fact that some people just don't believe your religious [<em>deleted</em>]? "The noble atheist rises above his petty fellows by sheer force of reason, intellectual honesty, and will for truth, and when he has achieved the lofty height of unbelief, he can look down upon the superstitious masses with a mixture of pity and contempt". You made a very true statement above. That is exactly what the atheist does, but he doesn't need a church or some white collared [<em>deleted</em>] to pay money to support. I'd hardly call being intelligent and being allowed to think for myself a religion. Why don't you just read and understand what the bible says and then make up your mind. If you still choose religion you are delusional and should seek help. What a sad joke you are, Dove. Have your feelings been hurt by the fact that some people just don’t believe your religious [deleted]?

“The noble atheist rises above his petty fellows by sheer force of reason, intellectual honesty, and will for truth, and when he has achieved the lofty height of unbelief, he can look down upon the superstitious masses with a mixture of pity and contempt”.

You made a very true statement above.
That is exactly what the atheist does,
but he doesn’t need a church or some
white collared [deleted] to pay money
to support. I’d hardly call being intelligent and being allowed to think for myself a religion.

Why don’t you just read and understand
what the bible says and then make up your mind. If you still choose religion you are delusional and should seek help.

]]> By: Ron Coleman http://likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/07/27/one-of-the-other-big-lies-of-our-time/#comment-4952 Ron Coleman Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:34:03 +0000 http://likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/07/27/one-of-the-other-big-lies-of-our-time/#comment-4952 Being "the man" has nothing to do with your sex! You are welcome, though. And I am going to change the post! Being “the man” has nothing to do with your sex! You are welcome, though. And I am going to change the post!

]]> By: LotharBot http://likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/07/27/one-of-the-other-big-lies-of-our-time/#comment-4951 LotharBot Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:28:04 +0000 http://likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/07/27/one-of-the-other-big-lies-of-our-time/#comment-4951 <blockquote>"Dove" -- you are the man!</blockquote> Dove is not a man. (If she is, our marriage is going to be in serious trouble.) Aside from that, though, thanks.

“Dove” — you are the man!

Dove is not a man. (If she is, our marriage is going to be in serious trouble.)

Aside from that, though, thanks.

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